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-<text type="​muted"​ background="​info"​ align="​left">​Topic:​ **Subordination Debate** (//​[[Subordination_Debate_discussion|Discussion]]//​) </​text>​+<text type="​muted"​ background="​info"​ align="​left">​Topic:​ **Subordination Debate** (//​[[Subordination_Debate_discussion|Discussion]]//​) </text><​div></​div>
 {{:​wiki:​601px-cairo_trinidad.jpeg?​400 |}}The recent Trinitarian [[wp>​Subordination]] dust-up, or “civil war” as Mike Bird gleefully [[https://​www.patheos.com/​blogs/​euangelion/​2016/​06/​the-coming-war-nicene-complementarians-vs-homoian-complementarians/​|calls it]], is chronicled [[http://​www.bringthebooks.org/​2016/​06/​trinity-controversy-omnibus.html|here]],​ summarised [[https://​thinktheology.co.uk/​blog/​article/​submission_in_the_trinity_a_quick_guide_to_the_debate|here]] by Andrew Wilson and explained over [[https://​www.christianitytoday.com/​ct/​2016/​june-web-only/​gender-trinity-proxy-war-civil-war-eternal-subordination.html|here]] by //​Christianity Today//. One of the benefits of Feminism, apart from helping women, is that it forced Complementarians not to be lazy. Rather than relying on chauvinism to enforce male-only-ordination,​ we had to have actual theological reasons. The modern movement of Complementarianism was born late in the twentieth century – CBMW was founded in 1987 – to explain why the Apostle Paul might instruct only men to have authority within the church (1 Tim 2:11-13) or tell them to take responsibility as husbands (Eph 5:22-33). If this principle of male leadership is trans-cultural,​ applicable across time and space, then it needs a profound basis, a philosophical foundation that goes beyond a cluster of prooftexts. So the idea of different gender roles but equal value as human beings was traced back to the fact that within God three different persons exist but only one divine being. (The famous, or infamous depending on your perspective,​ [[http://​enit-syd.sds.asn.au/​Site/​104629.asp?​ph=cp|Sydney Diocese Doctrine Commission]] Report in 1999, argued for ‘equality in essence with order in relation’,​ p19.) {{:​wiki:​601px-cairo_trinidad.jpeg?​400 |}}The recent Trinitarian [[wp>​Subordination]] dust-up, or “civil war” as Mike Bird gleefully [[https://​www.patheos.com/​blogs/​euangelion/​2016/​06/​the-coming-war-nicene-complementarians-vs-homoian-complementarians/​|calls it]], is chronicled [[http://​www.bringthebooks.org/​2016/​06/​trinity-controversy-omnibus.html|here]],​ summarised [[https://​thinktheology.co.uk/​blog/​article/​submission_in_the_trinity_a_quick_guide_to_the_debate|here]] by Andrew Wilson and explained over [[https://​www.christianitytoday.com/​ct/​2016/​june-web-only/​gender-trinity-proxy-war-civil-war-eternal-subordination.html|here]] by //​Christianity Today//. One of the benefits of Feminism, apart from helping women, is that it forced Complementarians not to be lazy. Rather than relying on chauvinism to enforce male-only-ordination,​ we had to have actual theological reasons. The modern movement of Complementarianism was born late in the twentieth century – CBMW was founded in 1987 – to explain why the Apostle Paul might instruct only men to have authority within the church (1 Tim 2:11-13) or tell them to take responsibility as husbands (Eph 5:22-33). If this principle of male leadership is trans-cultural,​ applicable across time and space, then it needs a profound basis, a philosophical foundation that goes beyond a cluster of prooftexts. So the idea of different gender roles but equal value as human beings was traced back to the fact that within God three different persons exist but only one divine being. (The famous, or infamous depending on your perspective,​ [[http://​enit-syd.sds.asn.au/​Site/​104629.asp?​ph=cp|Sydney Diocese Doctrine Commission]] Report in 1999, argued for ‘equality in essence with order in relation’,​ p19.)
  
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